- Dealer Hits On Soft 17 Good Or Bad For You
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FinsRule
Ok math geniuses. If the dealer were to hit soft 18, how would that affect the house edge?
Mission146
Well, the first thing you have to look at is:If you have 15 points or 16 and the dealer is showing a hard 17 or more, the strategy says to surrender. You would not surrender, however, if the dealer shows a soft 17 or lower hand. Yet, if you have 16 points, the strategy indicates you should surrender if the dealer is showing 10 or more points. It is in most of the casinos in AC. Also some of the electronic tables in Delaware have changed to the soft 17 rule. Gives the house another.05% edge or more. Casino Player Magazine just ran an article on this rule. We played a few weeks ago and all of Harrah's tables are mixed. Hilton had soft 17 tables. Trump Marina had mixed. Dealer stands on soft 17 was the standard rule in years past, but a growing number of casinos now require the dealer to hit on soft 17 (hands like Ace, 6). Not only do most players fail to recognize the difference, some believe that the hit on soft 17 rule works in their favor since the dealer will bust more often. Many times the dealer has had a soft 17 of some type, taken the required hit and received a 10! And then on almost every occasion, when the dealer hits that hard 17, he proceeds to bust. Note the dealer doesn't actually have to ever have a soft 17 for this to happen.
Yeah, right, like I'm good enough to figure this out! Shot in the dark, dealer still hits S17 and stands on H17, adds about 2.5%-3% to the house edge.
RS
Ok math geniuses. If the dealer were to hit soft 18, how would that affect the house edge?
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Ok math geniuses. If the dealer were to hit soft 18, how would that affect the house edge?
This rule would be good for the player and lessen the house edge.
odiousgambit
with soft 18 the player in BS doubles or stands and only hits in 3 instances [depending]dealers will always only go with one instruction, there's no composition-dependent decision ever. No casino is going to change this except as some special - it would be a weird promotion to choose, mystifying most players.
it's not in Wizard's list of special rules affecting HE
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ChesterDog
..If the dealer were to hit soft 18, how would that affect the house edge?
The infinite-deck model gives these player EVs, expressed as percent, for various combinations of dealer soft and hard standing numbers. (This is for a game with no surrender or re-splitting.)
You can see that the optimal strategy for the casino is to stand on soft 18 and hard 17. But hitting soft 18 wouldn't hurt the casino much at all.
hard21 | hard20 | hard19 | hard18 | hard17 | hard16 | hard15 | hard14 | hard13 | hard12 |
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soft21 | 53.56 | 9.21 | 9.22 | 28.02 | 47.92 | ||||
97.29 | 24.82 | -0.23 | 16.60 | 35.64 | |||||
soft19 | 47.44 | 6.74 | 6.96 | 24.69 | 43.63 | ||||
91.45 | 21.78 | -0.79 | 15.07 | 33.16 | |||||
soft17 | 44.92 | 6.09 | 6.76 | 23.67 | 41.81 | ||||
91.80 | 22.98 | 0.85 | 16.24 | 33.92 | |||||
soft15 | 47.98 | 9.11 | 9.42 | 26.18 | 44.15 | ||||
94.42 | 26.06 | 3.68 | 18.91 | 36.27 | |||||
soft13 | 50.68 | 11.85 | 12.16 | 28.74 | 46.26 | ||||
96.18 | 28.11 | 5.70 | 20.92 | 38.02 |
FinsRule
I guess I'm reading it wrong, if the soft 18, hard 17 box is the lowest number (-0.79), wouldn't that be optimal house strategy? Thanks for sending this over. Also, it looks like house hits all 17s would be more disastrous than I thought.
ChesterDog
..if the soft 18, hard 17 box is the lowest number (-0.79), wouldn't that be optimal house strategy?.. Types of casino.
Yes--that's the right box. Dealer's standing on soft 18, meaning dealer hits all soft 17s (H17), gives the biggest edge (0.79%) for the house against perfect basic strategy by players. That's why so many casinos changed their rules from S17 (casino stands on soft 17) to H17.
And yes, if the dealer must hit all hard and soft 17s, the player would have a huge edge of 6.21%.
FinsRule
Thanks, a very cool chart. A very very small difference between standing on soft 18 vs. soft 17. Now I know!
Neutrino
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Dealer hits soft 18
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By Henry Tamburin
No other hand makes blackjack players feel queasy than the dreaded 16. Players hate to hit the hand because they are afraid tobust. So many chicken out and stand no matter what the dealer shows. Others opt for the surrender option if it’s available figuring losing half a bet is better then losing it all. If your 16comes as a pair of 8’s most players are reluctant to split if the dealer shows a 9, 10, or ace because they are afraid of losing two bets instead of one. Then there is the 16 made up with anAce counted as 11 (i.e., soft 16). So what’s a player to do when he gets a 16?
No other hand makes blackjack players feel queasy than the dreaded 16. Players hate to hit the hand because they are afraid tobust. So many chicken out and stand no matter what the dealer shows. Others opt for the surrender option if it’s available figuring losing half a bet is better then losing it all. If your 16comes as a pair of 8’s most players are reluctant to split if the dealer shows a 9, 10, or ace because they are afraid of losing two bets instead of one. Then there is the 16 made up with anAce counted as 11 (i.e., soft 16). So what’s a player to do when he gets a 16?
First, let’s focus on a hard 16. That’s a hand that does not contain an Ace or if it does the Ace counts as one. Some examples of a hard 16 would be 10-6 or 5-7-4 or 7-8-Ace.
The correct basic playing strategy for hard 16 is to stand when the dealer shows a small card (2 through 6) and hit when the dealer shows a high card (7, 8, 9, 10, or Ace). Following thisplaying strategy will not guarantee that you will win every time but that you are more likely to lose less in the long run. Let me explain.
Suppose you are dealt a 10-6 and the dealer shows a 7 upcard.
Www bingosky com. If you hit you win on average 30% of the time and lose 70%.
Dealer Hits On Soft 17 Good Or Bad For You
If you stand you will on average win 26% and lose 74%.
Note that you improve your chances of winning the hand by 4% if you hit rather than stand. But the dealer is still an overwhelming favorite to beat you because he will win 70% of the hands toyour 30%. But is it better to win 26% of the time by standing or 30% of the time by hitting? You should hit because it will increase your chance of winning by 4%, not much, but every percentagewill help you in the long run when you play blackjack.
So the bottom line with a hard 16 is this. Even by following the basic strategy, you will lose more hands than you win but in the long run, you will lose less than following a seat-of-the-pantsstrategy. Losing less on hands where you are the underdog is just as important as winning more when you are the favorite.
What if your 16 consists of three or more cards like 5-7-4? Normally the basic strategy ignores the composition of the hand. However, if you have a hard 16 hand consisting of three or morecards, then you should stand when the dealer has a 10 showing. The reason is that you have consumed a few of the small cards that you need if you were to draw. This tips the odds in favor ofstanding.
Some casinos allow players to surrender. This means you give up the opportunity to play out your hand and automatically lose half your bet. Even when surrender is offered, most players don’tlike “giving up” without a fight. So they rarely surrender. That’s unfortunate because surrendering a hard 16 when the dealer shows a 9, 10, or Ace will save you more money in the long run thanhitting. In fact, surrender is always the best option when your chance of winning a hand is less than 25%. Take the hand of hard 16 against a 10. If we hit our chance of winning is 23.4%. Thismeans the dealer’s chance of beating us is 76.6%. If we played a hundred hard 16’s against the dealer 10 with those probabilities, we would end up winning about $23 and losing $77 for a netloss of $54 on average. By surrendering on every hand our net loss would be $50. Get the point? You are better off losing $50 then $54 which is why surrendering a hard 16 against a 10 is thebetter play because you will save $4.
If you happen to be dealt a soft 16 (like Ace-5), you should never surrender and you should never stand. Your first option is to double but only if the dealer shows a weak 4, 5, or 6 upcard. Ifnot, then hit.
Finally, we have a pair of 8’s. The correct basic strategy play is to always split the 8’s no matter what the dealer shows. Even though you will lose money on both 8’s when you split, thecombined loss, in the long run, will be less than the amount you will lose by playing the one hand as a 16. Splitting 8’s against a dealer 10, by the way, is also a slightly better play thensurrendering.
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No question that 16 is a lousy blackjack hand. Unfortunately, it’s one of the most frequent hands you are going to be dealt in blackjack. But, by following the above playing strategy you willbe optimizing your chances of winning more, and losing less, in the long run. It’s the smart way to play blackjack.
Dealer Hits On Soft 17 Good Or Bad Guys
Henry Tamburin has been a respected casino gambling writer for the past 50 years. He is the author of the Ultimate Blackjack Strategy Guide and was editor of the BlackjackInsider newsletter. You can read his latest articles on blackjack, video poker, and his personal playing experiences at https://www.888casino.com/blog/writers/henry-tamburin